(rakanyorwa naVanessa Tomassini)
Sezvo Gurukota rezvemukati menyika Luciana Lamorgese akapfupisa neChitatu 30 Kurume pakunzwa paSchengen Paramende Committee, muLibya nhasi tine hurumende mbiri, imwe inozivikanwa uye imwe semi-inozivikanwa. Yekutanga ndeyaAdel Hamid Dabaiba, mukuru weHurumende yeNyika Unity, uye yechipiri yaFathi Bashagha, yakasarudzwa neParamende yeLibya uye yakabhabhatidza Hurumende yeNyika Kugadzikana. Kuvepo kweHurumende mbiri dzakafanana kunowedzera kuomesa dambudziko, kwete chete kugadzikana kwezvematongerwo enyika uko nyika dzepasirese dziri kunetsana nadzo, vasingazive kuti ndiani ari pamutemo kusangana naye sezvakataurwa naLamorgese, asi pamusoro pezvose padanho renzvimbo, vagari vari pasi pevarombo. kupihwa kwesevhisi, zvinhu uye zvivakwa zvinosiririsa kunyangwe hupfumi hwakawanda hwezviwanikwa zvinofarirwa neLibya. Zviri pachena kuti nyika iri kutambura ne "personalization of political". Nhasi kutarisa kune maPrime Ministers maviri, Hurumende dzavo mbiri, vachibira mutambo kubva kune vatambi chaivo vari pasi, vanonyatsoita basa pasi, seManicipalities. Ichi ndicho chikonzero zvakakosha kuwana hukuru hwekugovera masimba maererano nemirairo yakanaka yeLocal Governance. Ndakataura nezvazvo naMahmoud Al-Soqoutri, meya weMisurata, muhurukuro iyi yakabudiswa nhasi pa. Libya yakakosha.
“Tinovimba kuti nyika huru dzichawana mhinduro chaiyo padambudziko reLibya. Tinoda mhinduro dzakakomba, kunyanya mukubvisa administrative centralization. Ini handitsigire iyo federal system, asi iri nani pane yazvino mamiriro. Dambudziko riri muLibya nderepakati pesimba uye kwete hunhu: hapana mhinduro inosvika nekuchinjanisa vanhu chete. Kupokana muLibya kunonyanya kukosha kwehupfumi, saka panofanirwa kuve nekugovewa kwehupfumi pakati pematunhu ese nemaguta. Uyewo kumasarudzo eparamende, kubva pakuona kwangu, kana paramende iri muBenghazi hapazovi nemhinduro, uye dai iri muTripoli, ingadai yakafanana. Naizvozvo, isu tinofanirwa kutarisa pane aya mapoinzi mumhinduro dzese dzenguva yemberi ”. Mugari wekutanga wedunhu rechitatu rakakosha zvikuru muLibya uye moyo wehupfumi hwenyika yeNorth Africa akati, achisimbisa kuti "kune chishava pakati pehurumende nemugari, asi hurumende iyi yakatanga nemamwe matanho, ichokwadi, yakapusa asi zvakanyanya. akakosha, sekufambiswa kwehunyanzvi uye kupihwa masimba kumadhumeni, asi nhanho idzi kusvika parizvino dzinonzi hadzina kukwana ".
Ndeapi mapurojekiti achangoburwa awakaita mukati meguta? Uye ndezvipi zvinangwa zvinotevera?
"Zvinhu zviri muLibya zvinotarisirwa nechepakati, isu semakanzuru tinongokumbira mapurojekiti, uye tinomanikidza kuita kwavo, uye tinotenda kuti takawana mhedzisiro yakanaka, kunyanya nezvemigwagwa, pane sarudzo dzakaitwa kuti mamwe mapurojekiti aitwe uye tinotanga kutaurirana nemamwe makambani kuti aonekwe. Takagadzirisa mimwe migwagwa yakaparara, tagadzirisa zvimwe zvivakwa, kudzorera zvimwe zvikoro negadheni repakati pekanzuru. Zvirongwa izvi hazvina kukura nekuda kwekushaikwa kwezvekushandisa zvakapihwa kumadhumeni. Misurata General Hospital yave ichigadziriswa, uye kune hutongi hwechidiki muchipatara uyo pasina mubvunzo anoita basa rakanaka. Zvichida haisi iyo yakanyanya kunaka nemaitiro epasi rose, asi kubva pakuona kwangu, ichave yakanyanya kunaka munharaunda, pamwero weLibya ”.
Nekuuya kweRamadan, Libya iri kusangana nekukwira kwemitengo. Zvinoitikawo here kuna Misrata? Matanho api angatorwa nekanzuru kudzivirira izvi?
“Musika unodzora mitengo kuburikidza nekupa uye kudiwa. Izvi ndizvo zvatinodaidza kuti hupfumi hwemusika kana hupfumi hwakasununguka. Iko hakuna zvinhu zvakatsigirwa uye zvigadzirwa kuti iwe ugone kuteedzera mitengo. Kazhinji, ivo vanowedzera pakutanga kweRamadan uye vozodzikira pakupera kweMwedzi Mutsvene, uye isu sekanzuru hatigone kudzora mitengo ".
Ndezvipi zvinodiwa uye zvinokuvaraidza zvevechidiki veMisrata? Ndeapi mabasa anorongwa kuti vechidiki vasaende kuhondo?
“KuMisrata, nekuLibya kwakawanda, mitambo, kunyanya nhabvu, ndiyo inonyanya kuunganidza vanhu vekuLibya. Chechipiri, ndinofunga kuti zvikwereti zvakanaka zvinofanirwa kupihwa kune vechidiki kuti vaite mapurojekiti anopa mikana yakawanda yebasa kune vechidiki ”.
Rutsigiro rwewanano rwakapihwa neHurumende yeNational Unity rwakatambirwa zvakanaka here nevechidiki vekuMisrata?
“Hongu, idanho rakanaka, asi sarudzo haina kurongeka. Taitarisira kuti, sarudzo isati yaitwa, paive nehurongwa hwakanyatsofungwa maererano nekuisa pamberi pevachawana mari yerutsigiro rwewanano. Uyezve, hapana nzira yakajeka uye yakanaka yekugovera pakati pematunhu nemaguta uye, chero zvakadaro, isarudzo ine chinangwa chezvematongerwo enyika ”.
Misrata yakarwa hondo dzakawanda kubva muna 2011, uye kune vakawanda vakafira kutenda uye vakakuvadzwa. Ko kanzuru irikuitei kubatsira vechidiki ava nemhuri dzavo?
"Hongu, hondo dzese idzi dzakakonzera matambudziko uye matambudziko mukubata nekukamukana kwakawanda nezviremera muguta. Asi dambudziko iri riri pakati pekutanga. Pane Ministry inofanirwa kutevera nyaya iyi nekubhadhara mari nerubatsiro kumhuri idzi. Kubva paChimurenga chaFebruary 2011, mhuri zhinji dzinoda kutariswa nekutsigirwa uye tinonzwa kunyara pamberi pavo ”.
Kana mumwedzi mitanhatu - sekutaura kunoita vazhinji - Libya ikaenda kumasarudzo, Misrata ingave yakagadzirira here?
"Misurata, kufanana nemaguta akawanda eLibya, ine misiyano uye kupesana pamusoro pemubvunzo wesarudzo, asi ndinofunga kuti ruzhinji rweguta redu rinonyanya kufarira kuita sarudzo dzeparamende, kana sarudzo dzeparamende nemutungamiri panguva imwe chete."
Unofungei nezvemamiriro ezvinhu ezvematongerwo enyika muLibya? Ndeapi manzwiro ako uye ndeipi mhinduro mumaonero ako?
“Vanhu vazhinji havasi kugutsikana nemamiriro akaita zvematongerwo enyika. Kune imwe mhando yezvematongerwo enyika. Masangano ezvematongerwo enyika aripo uye vanhu vanokakavadzana idambudziko guru uye kuvepo kwavo hakugadzirise dambudziko iri. Naizvozvo, ndinofunga hunhu uye miviri iyi inoda kubviswa kusvika tawana mhinduro dzakanaka. Pfuma inofanirwa kugovewa zvakaenzana pakati pevanhu vese kuti zvido zvevanhu zvisashandiswe nechero bato kuti dambudziko rezvematongerwo enyika rikure ”.
Makwikwi ezvematongerwo enyika neemauto pakati peDabaiba neBashagha akanganisa magariro eguta here?
“MuMisrata hamuna kunetsana. Vese Dabaiba neBashagha vane vatsigiri vanobva kumapato akasiyana siyana uye nemagariro mukati meguta. Handipesani neBhashagha semunhu, asi ndinopikisa chirongwa chaakaita. Paiva nekutya kukuru panyaya yekuchengetedzwa, asi tinotenda Mwari, dambudziko rakapfuura murunyararo uye zvino zvinhu zviri kufamba zvakanaka ".
Iwe unotenda here kuti Guta reMisurata rinogona kubatsira mukuyananisa pakati peVatungamiriri vaviri sezvo vese vachibva muguta rimwe?
“Hongu, takamboedza seManicipal kuita misangano nekuunza mapato pamwe chete, asi zvinorwadza zvikuru nekuti anomirira zvirongwa zviviri zvakasiyana zvisingabatanidzwe. Ndinoti neshungu, panyaya iyi takundikana”.
Iwe unorarama sei mamiriro ezvinhu muUkraine? Uri kunetseka here kuti kuchine mauto ekunze muLibya uye kuti pamwe rimwe zuva hondo inogona kutanga muLibya pamusoro pekuvapo kwavo?
"Dambudziko muUkraine rinobata nyika dzese dzepasi uye Libya chikamu chayo. Mamercenaries ekunze nevarwi chikamu chakakosha chedambudziko reLibya, asi hondo iyi inogona kunge iri chikonzero chakanaka chekudzingwa kwemauto ekunze (Wagner) kubva kuLibya ”.