Consultations postponed to Tuesday 'with 5S struggling with two ovens

The President of the Republic, Sergio Mattarella around 20.00 announced the outcome of the consultations: "I will hold new consultations that will begin next Tuesday to draw conclusions and take the necessary decisions. Only governments that win the confidence of Parliament are possible with group agreements on a program to govern the country, in the absence of these conditions the road is that of elections ”. “Recourse to the voters is necessary if the parliament is unable to express a government majority. I am informed that inter-party initiatives have been launched. I have a duty to demand prompt decisions".

"From the proposals and the principles illustrated by us to the Head of State and from the words and programmatic points exposed by Di Maio, a picture emerges on which you can surely start workingSaid Secretary Dem Zingaretti.

"We ask you mandate to meet the delegation of the PD to talk about the first point, the parliamentary cut, on which we will ask for clarity "said the group leader M5S Stefano Patuanelli at the assembly of groups. "For us the cut of parliamentarians must be done now, not between 10 years as someone asks. It is a fundamental reform for the future of the country with which Italians will save half a billion euros. Today we presented 10 points that are essential for us and, not surprisingly, the cut of the parliamentary 345 has been fixed as the first point both by virtue of the importance we attribute to it and by virtue of the fact that only one vote is missing and therefore two working hours of the Chamber to bring it to fruition. The cut of parliamentarians is the prerequisite for the rest of the legislature and to give it solidity. In this regard, given that today we have read rather vague declarations in this regard and given that the League continues to be the party of the boh, we ask you mandate to meet the delegation of the Pd".

"We don't let the ship sink, because Italy is all of us, in spite of partisan interestssaid Di Maio after meeting with the President of the Republic. "All the interlocutions have been started to have a solid majority that wants to converge on the points indicated. We do not let the ship sink, which the Italians pay. The citizens who voted for us on March 4 did it to change Italy not the Movement and I also think that the courage does not belong to those who run away but those who try to change things to the end, even making a mistake with sacrifice and trying to do things. The vote does not scare us at all but the vote cannot be the escape from the promises made by the Italians. We have so many things to do. We informed the head of state of what we believe are priority objectives for the Italians, ten commitments that we believe must be fulfilled".

The position of the League 

"An "agreement against", between the Pd and M5S, is the old policy. I don't think Italy needs an "anti government". And if someone tells me "let's think because" no "become" yes ", we improve the team, give ourselves a goal, do something" not against "but" for ", I have always said, I am a concrete person, I do not bring rancor I look forward, not backwards ”. “I discovered that many no, would have turned into yes. There are some 5s that would support a bold ploy - I found there would be some available. Having uncovered the vase was useful for understanding. But despite the insults, I go on ”. I was aware of a firm government, but if you want to restart the country, we are ready without prejudice without looking back"

Meanwhile, writes ANSA, the tension is rising both within Pd and M5s. In these hectic hours, even the voices of three new posts - via security decrees, pre-agreement on maneuver and parliamentary cut-offs - that would put the Democratic Party in the basket are making both the PD itself and the Movement fibrillate. Tensions that certainly also reached the Quirinale where the president is firm on the request to have full clarity soon. If there were not already today, nobody can exclude that the Quirinale can quickly open the procedures for new elections. On the name of the prime minister and on the first points on which to seek convergence at the moment the parts are far away. With a part of the 5 Star Movement that remains skeptical about the reliability above all of the secretary Dem Nicola Zingaretti. And, to shake the Movement there is the "no" to the cut of the parliamentarians that it would have proposed, except then to specify its concept, the secretary Dem.

It is the leader of the Democratic Party in the Chamber Graziano Delrio to point out that there is no veto over the number of members of parliament, but it must be accompanied by an electoral reform. And then the same Zingaretti, shortly after, in a note states that the conditions set at the M5S are the 5 points approved by the Management yesterday. But the dem thrust on the parliamentarians' cut - more than on the cancellation of part of the security decree - has increased, in these minutes the pentastellato skepticism, starting from the pro-Northern League as Gianluigi Paragone. And, according to some parliamentary sources, the Dem statements on the parliamentarians' cut would have arrived after the hypothesis had arrived at the Nazarene that, in his statements from the Hill, Luigi Di Maio it would not have clarified its opening to the Pd. But, at the moment, the tension that has risen in these last hours does not cancel the negotiation. Contacts between M5S and Pd - but not between Di Maio and Zingaretti - they would try to calm the climate in view of the Quirinal climb of the leader of the Movement. Quirinale that, already today, asks Di Maio for clarity in view of a possible government with the Pd.

Brothers of Italy

"The elections are the only possible outcome today, respectful of Italy, its interests, its people and the Constitution"Said the president of Fdi, Giorgia Melons. "We say no to a government that has a majority in Parliament but not among the citizens: it would be disrespectful of the will of the people and of our democracy". "The only way we have for a stable government is to vote: everything else will only last a few months: people who up until yesterday insulted each other today cannot get along". "The truth is that Mattarella is forced to choose between two different constitutional requirements: the one that asks to verify if there is a new majority and the one that says that sovereignty belongs to the people: and this is one of the most binding requirements of our Constitution" Meloni said again at the end of the FDI consultation. "I heard Salvini and I think that if we went to the vote there would be a team formed by Fdi and Lega for sure, we will see what Fi does, and surely it would already have a majority.".

Democratic Party

The words of Nicola Zingaretti: "We have expressed to the President of the Republic our willingness to verify the different majority formation and the start of a new political phase and a government in the sign of political and programmatic discontinuity. Not a government at any cost: we need a revolutionary government, an alternative to the right, with a new, solid program, a broad parliamentary base and giving Italians hope. If these conditions do not exist, all to be verified, the natural outcome of the crisis is new early elections for which the Democratic Party is ready. The Democratic Party considers it "useful" to try to establish a "turning government" for which "we have indicated the first non-negotiable principles": first of all the reconfirmation of Italy's "pro-European vocation".

Forza Italy

"The experience just ended shows that government projects are made with the times and compatible ideas, not after the vote but before. Therefore a government cannot be born in the laboratory, if it is based only on a contract, ”said Silvio Berlusconi, leader of Fi, at the end of the consultations. “Forza Italia has led a serious and coherent opposition in parliament trying to correct many errors and improve government measures with the same sense of responsibility demonstrated so far, and which has been very onerous in political terms for our party. But today we warn of a government that is the result of a majority of different and improvised ”. "A majority that does not reflect the majority of voters is a mere coincidence of forces that have opposed each other, it cannot be the basis for a stable and credible executive but only a mockery of the voters and a betrayal of their will," he said. Berlusconi. "A left-leaning government would be dangerous for business, development, security," he concludes. "Under no circumstances is Fi available to alliances with those we opposed in the electoral campaign and who express a different and opposite vision of the country". "A government strongly biased to the left - said Berlusconi - would be dangerous for businesses and for the guarantees of citizens' freedom" with the risk that "faced with difficulties, it would resort to a capital that would definitively compromise growth prospects".

Group of the Autonomies

(Svp, Patt and Uv) of the Senate which has been said "Available to support a government" with a majority focused on M5s and Pd that it should be formed, if it has "a strong European stamp", also because the elections risk leading to the provisional exercise and the increase of VAT, said the president of the Group Julia Unterberger and the deputy Albert Laniece.

Cutting of parliamentarians at risk

At the moment, writes the Agi, no certain date is set for the arrival in the Chamber of the Chamber of the constitutional reform that cuts the number of parliamentarians. In the last calendar established by the Conference of the group leaders, for the month of September, the reform was scheduled for 9 September, with the general discussion and then the final vote. This is the last reading: it must be approved with an absolute majority. But then, with the onset of the crisis, everything was frozen. And the session scheduled for the final vote on the reform, following the request for urgent summons presented by the 5 stars, was then transformed into a debate on the subject, without a vote therefore. With the resignation of Giuseppe Conte and the end of his government, the calendar of the work of the Chamber is in fact cleared and, therefore, a new Conference of the group leaders will have to set a new date for the examination of the Chamber. As long as a new executive is born and the parliamentary activity resumes its normal course. However, there is nothing to prevent the adoption of a new date for the final vote without any speed. That is to say, the reform could be recalibrated even more over the years, for example in the late autumn, thus giving space to a possible new comparison between M5s and Pd - if they went together with the government - to match the cut of the parliamentarians, for example the reform of the current electoral law in a more proportional sense, so 'to adapt it', it is explained, to the new order that the parliament would have with the go-ahead for the revision of the Charter. This is, for example, the proposal put forward today by the Democratic Party with the leader Graziano Delrio: "We are in favor of cutting the parliamentarians that we had already proposed in the past, but we ask that it be included in a comprehensive agenda that takes into account a reform of the electoral law that guarantees democratic representation to the territories ”. From the 5 Movement stars, we learn, there would be no prejudicial preclusion to start such a path, provided - and on this point the pentastellars are categorical - the reform that cuts the parliamentarians remains a priority and comes to its final approval.

 

Consultations postponed to Tuesday 'with 5S struggling with two ovens

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